[rsbac] Forum
Jens Kasten
igraltist at rsbac.org
Fri Apr 17 16:16:23 CEST 2009
Hi,
Iam would help too, to take parts from moderations tasks.
So the minimum from moderators site would be fullfilled.
I hope the forum does grow on running time.
grüsse
jens
Am Freitag, den 17.04.2009, 09:58 -0400 schrieb Paul D. Robertson:
> Amon Ott wrote:
>
> > - The forum is hosted in a virtual server forum.rsbac.org. If Paul is still
> > willing to set it up and maintain it technically, I would gladly accept this
> > offer and support him at the server side. If we feel daring and find more
> > people, we could make it more general and call it forum.kernelsecurity.org
> > with general and RSBAC topics seperated (yes, we own that domain. :).
> >
>
> I'd think that making it more general would be a good idea. I generally
> use SMF as I find it to be as good as the commercial forum packages. It
> needs MySQL and PHP- about the only thing you can't do from the admin
> interface is back up user-submitted images (avatars if allowed and
> images embedded in posts that are uploaded to the server.) Are you
> proposing hosting it? I can host it, but all my hosting is on
> Virtuozzo-based VPSes, so they're not RSBAC'd- I can set up a forum on
> one over the weekend, or early next week- or if you wish to host, we can
> coordinate that.
>
> I'd suggest the following main boards:
>
> General Trusted Computing Base
> RSBAC
> SeLinux
> TrustedBSD/Darwin
> Other Trusted Operating Systems
>
> With appropriate sub-boards under that- perhaps News,
> Configurations/Tips, and Assistance to start.
>
> I'm assuming AppArmor is dead and going too much further will just be
> lots of emptiness, which isn't good, and starting up at LSM would bury
> things too much- we can always rework the tree after getting enough
> traction.
>
> As part of the administration, I'd do regular database backups, deal
> with registration issues/problems, keep the software up to date, make
> any structural changes, ban spammers, and provide any other general
> forum admin tasks.
>
> > - Posting is only allowed after registration, read access is free. Condition
> > for registration is that people accept the usual conditions, e.g. that we
> > keep the right to delete inappropiate postings and that all content may be
> > used in the official RSBAC documentation with a free license
> >
>
> SMF supports this well, and the anti-spammer captcha is generally pretty
> good spammers actually end up having to manually register- I think I had
> about twelve incidents over a two-three year period, and once I'd banned
> the offending user/email/IP a couple of times they gave up. It also
> supports things like limiting private messages for people who haven't
> made many postings.
>
> > - At least two people volunteer to moderate the forum. This means that they
> > keep a regular eye on all postings and block or remove inapropiate stuff and
> > feel responsible for everything. These volunteers should be none of kang,
> > michal and me, we are too busy developing.
>
> Depending on volume, I find it takes 5-10 minutes a day and I'd say that
> two people would be great- the last forum I moderated (for a client-
> commercial stuff) took only ~5m a day and users generally reported spam
> the days I hadn't gotten to it yet. I'd be happy to fill one of the
> moderator slots.
>
> > - At least one volunteer tracks tipps and solutions in the forum and compiles
> > them into official documentation at www.rsbac.org. Frequent questions go into
> > a FAQ at www.rsbac.org. When the answer is officially in docs, the forum
> > thread is finished with a link to it.
>
> This is very difficult- even with a commercial client with paid
> employees, meeting this goal wasn't done. My "solution" to this was to
> have a read-only board that postings could be moved to once they were
> considered dead if they were the kind of thing that was a tip/trick.
>
> > - If the forum does not work out, I would rather close it down than keep a
> > dead forum. This includes inactive or missing moderators, because we are
> > legally responsible for postings.
>
> Yep, it takes up to six months to get enough critical mass to make a
> forum work- assuming it's not very active after about six months that's
> where I'd probably put it out of its misery. I'm not sure what it's
> like in the EU, in the US my impression (I'm not a lawyer) is that
> you're generally only responsible for content if you edit postings or
> fail to remove someone else's intellectual property or contraband images
> (reference is a case outcome known generally as "The Prodigy decision.")
>
> Paul
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